What is it like at UDS
I want everyone who is even slightly interested in what went on at UDS to watch this awesome video by Benjamin Humphrey (of the manual project fame)
I’d show the video here on the blog, but youtube doesn’t work without a plugin which I can’t seem to install right now.
“Dieses Video enthält Content von Sony Music Entertainment. Es ist in deinem Land nicht mehr verfügbar”
This video contains content of Sony Music Entertainment. It is not available anymore in your country.
Is there a version hostet elsewhere? Or without stupid Sony music?
Actually that video was banned from YouTube or just isn’t available in Germany, which is kind of sad. It says it contains content from “Sony Music Entertainment”.
It teared me up a little. FOSS is the biggest concept that enables me to know that the world we are creating is a wonderful thing. More than Buddha, more than Krishna, more more than my kids.
Cool video. Hope lots of progress was made. Haven’t read much about UDS-M actually.
So this brings up an interesting point. What’s the copyright license on this video? Its obviously not Creative Commons as its including audio which is proprietary licensed. Is anyone free to take this video and re-edit it with an alternative audio track? The copyright situation isn’t clear as to what is actually allowed.
Would you consider the video an example of the pragmatic ideal that Ubuntu strives for? The blending of open and proprietary together that lives in a sort of grey space where its not clear what your rights are to consume, use or manipulate the work actually is?
-jef
Jef: This case isn’t that grey. The audio track is clearly all rights reserved and in this case copyright infringement. The video is up to Ben I guess.
So Martin, do you feel comfortable with sharing a video that is a blatant copyright infringement as a showpiece for what UDS is like? I would have thought you would shy away from broadcasting community created content that was a flagrant copyright infringement of other people’s work. You wouldn’t do that for a software project that was blatantly violating the copyright of anther coders work would you?
Do you really want to make it this easy for me to construct the following tagline?
UDS: making it socially acceptable to engaged in opportunistic copyright infringement
Not that I would. It’s a bit too snarky…even for me.
The point I’m trying to make is serious. By broadcasting creative mashups that flagrantly violate copyright you are making it a socially acceptable practise. This is not a good thing…even from a pragmatic point of view. Violating copyright, which underpins the constructs the collaborative modification rights granted through creative commons licensing is never something to publicly support…even when its proprietary licensing for a music track.
-jef
Jef: I thought we’d already established that the video wasn’t a copyright problem, in my blog entry I clearly invite people to watch the video, not listen to the music.
You’d have had me if I’d had said the music was awesome though. I support the redistribution of the video only, I’ll obviously have problems if I get my sound working with flash and I can hear the evil infringement.
I’m more peeved that it’s not being distributed via blip.tv. I’m not a big YouTube fan.
Thanks for your comment though Jeff, always a pleasure to know your constructing something wonderful for society.
http://www.archive.org/details/UbuntuDeveloperSummitMaverickMay2010
someone was so nice to upload it. (Although now that I think about it I _think_ that Google has deals with the music industry to use their songs in videos .. just not in Germany (german GEMA wants too much money .. that would mean that this upload is really an infringement.)
I am so dieing to be in a UDS someday…
Yes Tom, the download at that url is a copyright infringement as it uses unlicensed audio content. The person who uploaded the video to archive.org broke the archive.org terms of use by doing so. And you are encouraging continued infringement by including the url in your comment.
Tom, this is a serious question. If you personally understand the video at that url to be an infringement why did you feel comfortable pointing people to it? Don’t you feel a sense of personal responsibility in making sure copyright licenses associated with redistribution are respected?
We can’t have it both ways. If we want people to respect the share-alike licensing terms of Creative Commons and the share-alike terms in the (L)GPL then don’t we also have to respect the copyright terms that other people put on their code and their content? It’s simply not appropriate to take a piece of music which is not CC share alike and treat it as if it were.
This is a straight forward copyright infringement issue. When you point people to content that is infringing copyright you are making it socially acceptable to do. We can’t ask people to respect the terms open source licenses and open content licenses and not respect the terms of other licenses ourselves.
-jef
Jeff: you really are on a crusade with this one aren’t you. The FOSS community generally respects copyright better than the average closed sourced computer user. Of course CI isn’t right but there is an argument that could be raised for certain works to be given special cultural significance exceptions, much like fair use. Of course I couldn’t claim the song is either culturally significant or being used in a fair use manner, but hey-ho please do continue this crusade in the applicable places upstream (i.e. not here)
Just saw that UDS video and was wondering, unless my eyes need some tinkering, but did you appear in it doctormo?
I am indeed, I’m in it quite a few times in fact. Looks for the side burns